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PostSubject: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 20th 2010, 6:45 pm

I would like to discuss a number of playlist-related topics in this topic.

1) The ability to vote for deletion- This is stupid, in my opinion. If there's a song on there we don't like, we can skip it, unless:
-the song is extremely offensive
-none of the members like the song at all
-the song is just plain stupid

2) NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!! I am considering having a limit of the number of songs by one artist, especially due to the abuse of Ozzy Osbourne songs by a certain someone. I'm thinking around 5 to 8-ish, and I really like this idea, so please vote on how many songs one artist should get on the playlist. We will then discuss which songs will be deleted if an artist exceeds the limit.

3) Actually, that's pretty much it. The major topic for discussion is the limitation by artists.

Since double-posting is bad, I will go ahead and type up my plan here. The songs in red are the ones that should be deleted in my opinion (assuming the limit will be 10):





  • You Shook Me All Night Long
    by AC/DC



  • Like A Stone by
    Audioslave



  • Fight For Your Right
    by Beastie Boys



  • No Sleep Till Brooklyn
    by Beastie Boys



  • Black Abyss by Black
    Tide



  • Sun King by The Cult



  • Armageddon It by Def
    Leppard



  • Fading Away by Demon
    Hunter



  • Not I by Demon Hunter



  • Not Ready To Die by
    Demon Hunter



  • Storm the Gates of Hell
    by Demon Hunter



  • Bloodrocuted by
    Dethklok



  • Decadence by Disturbed



  • Down With The Sickness
    by Disturbed



  • Inside The Fire by
    Disturbed



  • The Night by Disturbed



  • Perfect Insanity by
    Disturbed



  • Voices by Disturbed



  • Bring Me To Life by
    Evanescence



  • Call Me When You're Sober
    by Evanescence



  • Everybody's Fool by
    Evanescence



  • Going Under by
    Evanescence



  • Good Enough by
    Evanescence




  • Lithium by Evanescence



  • Everlong by Foo
    Fighters



  • Learn To Fly by Foo
    Fighters



  • Long Road To Ruin by
    Foo Fighters




  • Monkey Wrench by Foo
    Fighters



  • My Hero by Foo
    Fighters



  • The Pretender by Foo
    Fighters



  • Code Monkey by
    Jonathan Coulton



  • Re: Your Brains by
    Jonathan Coulton



  • Skullcrusher Mountain
    by Jonathan Coulton



  • Still Alive by
    Jonathan Coulton & GLaDOS



  • Don't Stop Believin'
    by Journey



  • In For The Kill by La
    Roux



  • Land Down Under by Men
    At Work



  • Enter Sandman by
    Metallica



  • If Everyone Cared by
    Nickelback



  • If Today Was Your Last Day
    by Nickelback



  • Wonderwall by Oaisis



  • The Kids Aren't Alright
    by The Offspring



  • Centre Of Eternity by
    Ozzy Osbourne




  • Crazy Train(live) by
    Ozzy Osbourne



  • Desire by Ozzy
    Osbourne




  • Gets Me Through by
    Ozzy Osbourne




  • Hellraiser by Ozzy
    Ozbourne




  • I Don't Know by Ozzy
    Osbourne




  • I Don't Wanna Stop by
    Ozzy Osbourne



  • Iron Man by Ozzy
    Osbourne



  • No More Tears by Ozzy
    Osbourne




  • Not Going Away by Ozzy
    Osbourne




  • Paranoid (Live With Randy
    Rhoads)
    by Ozzy Osbourne




  • Perry Mason by Ozzy
    Osbourne



  • Rock 'n' Roll Rebel by
    Ozzy Osbourne



  • Suicide Solution (Live)
    by Ozzy Osbourne




  • The Ultimate Sin by
    Ozzy Osbourne




  • Another One Bites The Dust
    by Queen



  • I Want It All by Queen



  • Cum On Feel The Noise
    by Quiet Riot



  • Californication by The
    Red Hot Chili Peppers



  • Dani California by Red
    Hot Chili Peppers



  • Snow by Red Hot Chili
    Peppers



  • Under the Bridge by
    Red Hot Chili Peppers



  • Dragula by Rob Zombie



  • Iron Head by Rob
    Zombie



  • Awake And Alive by
    Skillet



  • Hero by Skillet



  • Monster by Skillet



  • Rebirthing by Skillet



  • B.Y.O.B. by System of a
    Down



  • Tentative by System of
    a Down



  • Sweet Disposition by
    The Temper Trap



  • Great DJ (Original Radio Edit)
    by The Ting Tings



  • Untouched by The
    Veronicas

You know, something like that.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 20th 2010, 9:11 pm

1) I would suggest an appeal system. If a song fits any of those categories, the person may appeal it in a thread known as "Playlist Appeals." A person would second the appeal, and it would go to The Green Team (aka Representatives) + Admin. They discuss the songs appealed at occasional intervals, and if the result is unanimous, the song goes away.
2) Let's go with a maximum of 3 songs by an artist for the first person to request. Up to 4 additional songs may be added by other members, with each member being alloted a maximum of 2 other songs by that artist. This allows artists that are popular with all of Valhalla to be given the most representation. (It also keeps spamming to a minimum.)
3) Alrighty.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 21st 2010, 11:58 am

Alrighty, then.

I still say we shouldn't delete songs unless they're highly offensive, or something.

As for the song limitation thing, it's a good idea, but I'm not so sure about it. IF we end up doing that, I think it would be better for the original requester to get 5 songs, then 5 more songs can be added by others.

My preferred scenario at the moment:
-Songs may only be deleted if someone declares it offensive, then the Reps and Admin will decide on the deletion, based on the person's reasoning
-Each artist may have a limit of eight songs altogether, and may be suggested by anyone. If the limit is reached and another song is suggested by the same artist, we will vote on which song should be removed.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 21st 2010, 12:14 pm

On the second part of your scenario:

Let's do 3 per artist per person. It's fair, and artists who are popular with the group get more representation. (e.g. If 3 people like Jordan Sparks, up to 9 songs may be added by her. If one of those people finds a different song by her, they must replace.)

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 21st 2010, 1:01 pm

I still don't like it.
let's get someone else to vote on it.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 21st 2010, 8:19 pm

I like the just 8 per thing, as it sounds a lot less fluctuating and easier to do

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 21st 2010, 8:28 pm

That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Alright, we'll make this official next week.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 21st 2010, 8:38 pm

Do that.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 3:06 pm

Yeah, I have to say, I do like the eight a bit better. I understand Jack's system, but I think it would be a bit simpler this way. OR...we could combine the two. Maybe each artist has a max of eight, but for example, if there are already eight Disturbed songs on there, and Joe comes along and wants to put on a few more, we could swap them out. So Joe and onehalfap could decide on which Disturbed songs they wanna keep and send their decisions on which ones to swap out to the Suggestion Box. Sound good?

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 3:07 pm

That would work even better

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 3:50 pm

Didn't I JUST say that?:

@banjo999 wrote:
If the limit is reached and another song is suggested by the same artist, we will vote on which song should be removed.

That was literally my second most recent post in this topic.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 3:52 pm

Yeah, except they are storing a list of deleted songs somewhere on the forum

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 4:05 pm

Oh. Sorry. Must have missed that bit.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 4:17 pm

Hey, you didn't lose much money in Banjo's robbing reform

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 4:34 pm

He posted in the RPGs.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 5:06 pm

Still, you reduced money to 50

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 5:16 pm

His was lower than fifty at the time, so it stayed the same.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 5:41 pm

Oh, well that makes sense

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 8:25 pm

Yeah...my recent participation gave me OVER 100 POSTS!!!!!! I'm posting more since the Comatose of ICS (hehehe, badly veiled best Skillet album reference). So yeah.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 8:49 pm

Please post in games!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 9:09 pm

Comatose is the one where Mr. Cooper is saying cutters are bad, right?

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 23rd 2010, 9:19 pm

Uhhh, not that cutters are bad, but that God is there for them and will provide for their every need as long as they come to him.

The song "Whispers in the Dark" has a related message, but more with people just being afraid than emo.

Comatose was the album just before "Awake", and from what I've heard, most people think its the best. I haven't heard the whole thing, though.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   February 28th 2010, 5:06 pm

I would like to inform the forum members that playlist songs are permitted to be at an R-rated level. Listener discretion is advised. Reps, don't ruin good songs like Down with the Sickness.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 2nd 2010, 3:34 pm

What do you mean, "ruin"? I remember singing that song on Rock Band with Joe playing guitar last year...ah, good times.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 2nd 2010, 4:10 pm

It bleeped out half the words.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 2nd 2010, 6:04 pm

That's bad.

I see ramen is posting again

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 3rd 2010, 2:51 pm

Ah, I see. Did the forum censor it, or did someone on the forum censor it, or did you find a censored version, or what?

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 3rd 2010, 3:05 pm

Cyeaek replaced it with a censored version.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 3rd 2010, 3:34 pm

Ah. So, did we ever decide on the plan of action for the playlist?

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 3rd 2010, 3:53 pm

We did. Guess what!?

I'm talking to my girlfriend.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 3rd 2010, 5:02 pm

HOLD ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAYLIST ACCOUNT!!!!! That wasn't me that censored it!!!!!!!! It has to be either someone else you gave the powers to OR a hacker, NOT ME.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 3rd 2010, 5:23 pm

Maybe it was changed at the original link.

EDIT:

The official major changes are as follows:

-Each band/artist gets a maximum of 5 songs. Even if it's a song like one by both Disturbed AND Korn, it counts as one towards both of them.
-Each user on the Forums gets to choose one band as a favorite. A band you have favorited can have up to 8 songs. For instance, it would have been that Ozzy could only have 5 songs, but I have favorited him and he may now have 8.

Please feel free to post the one you've chosen as your favorite here.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 3rd 2010, 9:10 pm

Well, if it matters, I favorite Johnathan Coultan, but I think he only has 4 or 5 songs on there anyways, but whatever

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 4th 2010, 5:52 am

You can add more songs by him if you want. If not, you can favorite another band you like just to add more songs you want by him/her/them.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 4th 2010, 3:11 pm

I assume "Julie" is your woman you're taking to the snowball thingymabob?

Anyways, what if two people favorite the same band/artist? Not saying I will, but do we have a plan for that? Or if its already been favorited, does someone pick a different one? Also, I didn't really get this part...
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-Each band/artist gets a maximum of 5 songs. Even if it's a song like one by both Disturbed AND Korn, it counts as one towards both of them.

Does that apply to songs with the same title (e.g. there are a few songs out there titled "Hero"), or a song made by two bands as a joint effort?

Skillet is my new favorite band. If you couldn't guess.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 4th 2010, 3:57 pm

No, same-name songs do not apply to the rule.

If your favorite band is favorited, you're lucky, because you can choose your second favorite band and they both get eight songs.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 5th 2010, 2:59 pm

Ah. Okay, thanks for clearin that up.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 5th 2010, 3:46 pm

No problem. I hope everyone read the update (The new one posted Thursday) about the Discarded Topics Forum.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 5th 2010, 7:00 pm

I did.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 5th 2010, 7:59 pm

Great. Now you're updated.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 6th 2010, 11:28 am

Me too.

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PostSubject: Re: Playlist Debates (Also in Debates Forum)   March 6th 2010, 11:43 am

Fantastic.

EDIT:

The playlist now has 92 songs after my bombardment. Favorites:

banjo- Ozzy Osbourne
dalek- Johnathan Coulton
ramen- Skillet
AP- Three Days Grace

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